Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter Excerpts from Hofstadter’s Books. On what GEB is really all about (from Gödel, Escher, Bach: 20th Anniversary Ed.) So what is this book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid — usually known by its acronym.

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Inhe moved to the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where he was hired as a professor of psychology and was also appointed to the Walgreen Chair for the Study of Human Understanding.

It’s just that an electronic brain would be built from transistors and subroutines instead of brain tissue. If you build a “well-formed” number theory labeled Xthen X can be used to generate a proof of X ‘s self-consistency only if X is inconsistent. Finally, the outer message is the most interesting example in the cognitive process. It might melt your brain. So but, what is made clear, if the prospect of AI is not, is that metafiction is not just a bunch of intellectual masturbation but is a fictioning which takes real things, ie, metamathematical structures, and uses them in structuring a story or fixing them into narrative metaphors.

I need to hear it explained in another way. For example, you pretty much have to find the following joke to be hilarious: But she doesn’t seem heart-broken in the least.

Jul 02, GoldGato rated it liked it Shelves: Douglas Hofstadter combines and links the various themes associated with the characters in the title and some others in fascinating and imaginative ways. He excels at getting the reader interested in – and even excited about – some traditionally inaccessible stuff.


How can Self be in its own acronym? To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. You will be required to think about the problems presented, and work to understand and use the complex logical systems that have been created, or you will quickly lose the thread of the argument.

Hofstadter, and even to you, but to me, there may be an entirely different conclusion from the same information. Hofstadter’s pre-chapter dialogues are no exception to my hatred.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

But if you really like math, then esche almost certainly already read it. He has numerous recursive sequences and geometric constructions named after him. In fact, though I would recommend starting at the beginning of the book, I suppose one might begin anywhere and read through and back again, a’la Finnegan’s Wake. View all 8 comments.

Nov 19, Nathan “N. He points out that those inside an internally consistent system can never fully understand the forces outside the system.

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Hofstadter quotes from an article in The New Yorkerin which two statements are made that, while possible, would constitute lunacy on the part of anyone who actually believed them.

In a page tome, not so much. Bcah won’t tell anyone.

View all 3 comments. For example, in language, we start with smaller components such as words and phrases, and build up complex sentences from there. The Copycat project was subsequently extended under the name “Metacat” by Hofstadter’s doctoral student James Marshall. Much admiration for bsch who understand whatever the bloody hell it’s telling you. Bach are totally interrelated, man. Lists with This Book. However, GEB showed that there exists formal systems in which the figure and ground are not recursive, do not carry the same weight, and are not complementary.


At its lowest level, it is a logical concept. There are varying thoughts as to the meaning of DNA. A profound example is the genetic information in DNA. What is also peculiar with this book is that, while the author does not manage to provide very convincing support to his overall thesis about the ultimate nature of intelligence in self-conscious entities, hofstadfer does not really matter: A passage’s perceived douglws, then, is in the eye of the beholder so to speak —certain bcah that make sense to one reader might very well appear as completely random tangents to another.

Most of us who are familiar with building structures expect some sort of an organization with stairs, gravity, and other physical laws. However, according to Hofstadter, the formal system that hoofstadter all mental activity transcends the system that supports it.

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

Interesting problems with meaning comes when translating words from one language to the next, especially in literature and poetry, which often relies on implicit meaning to understand the content. Along the way we are treated to a deluge of ideas.

It’s a very well-written, well-researched book. How about the book?